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I am posting this to help you guys sign the petition to stop the M855 ban. It's pretty easy to sign and I hope helps.
Don't forget you have to check your email and verify to make it legit. If your not comfortable putting your info out there please share this link where ever you can.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-batfe-banning-xm855-ammunition/XrvVh1cj...
So a good friend of mine has told me:
"What we all need to do is e-mail the BATF! It's to late for a petition. Do the following: The ATF has said that they “will carefully consider all comments, as appropriate, received on or before March 16, 2015″ at this email address:
Consider using the following template:
Subject line: Proposed Ammo Ban
To Whom It May Concern;
I am writing to express my opposition to the proposed administrative ban of lawful ammunition, namely M855 or SS109 commonly known as “green tip.” This ammunition uses a 62 grain projectile that has a steel core component. This ammunition was designed in the cold war era to penetrate eastern bloc helmets and body armor. It is ineffective against the modern body armor available to, and commonly used by law enforcement and the military. It has no armor piercing properties. This ammunition has become an inexpensive sporting round used by many in AR15 and other modern sporting rifles. This administrative ban by BATFE regulation is another affront to the liberty and rights of the citizens of the United States. We have suffered continuous bureaucratic regulation and arbitrary rule changes that impose an undue burden upon the law abiding citizen. Such regulation is put in place without legislative endorsement or judicial oversight. This proposed regulation will not serve to enhance public safety or deter criminals. It will simply create yet another hardship on citizens using it for lawful purposes, and ammunition manufacturers. Sincerely,
Your Name here"
I think he has an awesome approach to this issue. I think it is hard enough to get people to sign the petition, However, the motivated 3% or so may like the opportunity to try to fight the encroachment on our rights.
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Or FAX them at:
Fax: (202) 648-9741.
This E-Fax initiative is interesting. It takes about 60 seconds to receive a fax and their are thousands waiting to go through. If you have already signed and/or want to gum up the works a bit, please try an E-Fax:
Over 30,720 people have shared their objections with the ATF and Congress. Keep up the good work!
We are at: ***ALMOST THERE!***
SIGNATURES NEEDED BY MARCH 16, 2015
TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000,
15,858 more to go
TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION
84,142
Thanks for the comments and your help and support!!
(This is not a random bump, it is an update to information here. Admin/Mods please don't delete)
Comments (82)
Fuck this tyrant. Is it coincidence that his minions are now trying to ban M855, a motion has been introduced to ban the general public from owning body armor, AND now the latest, allowing "refugees" from Syria to immigrate to the U.S.? When will enough be enough? America is FUCKED
U.S. Congress questions plan to admit Syrian refugees @drudgereportapp http://tiny.iavian.net/493w...
King Obama will just wipe his ass with this petition
Love how the picture shows Obama but this is a law from 1986.......
True that it is a law from 1986 but Obama's administration is changing the law (without legislation....again) to remove the exemption of M855 ammo from the armor piercing categorization. What has changed since 1986, since the law was enacted but M855 has been available for the past 28 years? Answer: Obama.
By "Obama administration" you mean the ATF? If you get a traffic ticket did the Obama administration also do that? Go back to watching your illuminati YouTube videos if you still pretend you are too dense to understand the difference.....
Where did your ignorant ass come from and how soon can you return? This is not the place for you limp-wristed, left-leaning, penis-puffing trolls. Don't you have a gay pride parade to service?
Did a person having an opinion other than yours hurt your feelings or make you feel inadequate? So sad you must lash out in such ways to make yourself feel somewhat man-like. Do you wish I was a homeosexual? Do you wish men would see you the same way you look at them?
Where do you think EXECUTIVE ORDERS come from, dear Democrat friend? Parks and Recreation Department? Even the liberal media has given up defending this fool for the most part... it's time for you to take the blinders off and give it a rest also.
But this is not an executive order…..what was your point again?!?
Oh, "blinders?" You got me there, next you are going to say "kool aid" and accuse me of being on welfare.
LOL! You pretend conservatives are beyond funny, sadly predictable, and hurt ACTUAL CONSERVATIVES (and their causes) who must explain to rational people that you and US are not connected.
And you claim to be what now? Conservative? I have never met a "conservative" with that much Obama love. I guess blinders is not the correct word for someone who has the ability to see, yet chooses not to do so. I think that term would be Democrat.
BREAKING: Obama Announces Gun Control Executive Order… Here’s What’s Banned -
"Once again Barack Obama is showing his true contempt for the American Constitution. Using his phone and a pen, Obama has issued an executive order banning M855 ammunition."
http://conservativetribune.com/obama-announces-gun-control/...
No, Obama is definitely not the ONLY problem, but he is the main one with the heavy hand.
Never claimed to love Obama now did I??? I hate dishonest people who feel the need LIE to prove their point. If Obama is really so anti-gun you would think the truth would be enough evidence but clearly it is not. I am more conservative than 90 percent of you who hoot and holler about the constitution but shred it at every turn. Freedom of speech? Only if I like what you say! Freedom of religion? Only if we go to the same church! Freedom of assembly? Only if it is at a gun show! A true conservative respects AND FOLLOWS the constitution. You are like the people who go to church every Sunday but cheat on their wives and steal from their jobs / customers.
BTW, your link is cute being it makes reference to an executive order but does not name it or its sources. Also it is the ONLY link I could find that claims Obama (not the ATF) is doing the PROPOSED change. Another lie being you lack the evidence to argue with facts?
Dude are you serious? I'm thinking this must be a joke. You come onto a pro gun site, comment on a pro 2A petition, adamantly defend Obama, and you seem to be SHOCKED that you are in the minority? You claim to be a conservative that truly believes Obama has no hand in backdooring our 2A rights and call all of US hypocrites? Please tell me you are joking... please call yourself an idiot and bow out gracefully.
I have not defended a single action made by Obama. If I have please quote me otherwise "please call yourself an idiot and bow out gracefully."
Also since Obama has been president I have not lost a single right related to firearms and no one has come to my door demanding I turn them over. Seems just as pro or anti gun as Bush as their records are equal. Sad you cannot see that.
It's a classic tactic of the witless when it comes to debating... "Oh, you don't profess to HATE Obama? Then you must be a homo Kenyan-loving Democrat!" There's a name for this particular logical fallacy, but I won't bother to name it here because it'll make more than a few small brains get all wilted and smoky.
It's this sort of thing that sometimes makes me ashamed to be an enthusiastic gun owner and shooter... being associated with this right-wing-radio-inspired claptrap. And it's hilarious that one of these dolts used the term "penis puffing" to refer to your calling them out on their thought-free 'thought process', when that's EXACTLY what these clowns are amongst themselves, sucking each other off and calling each other a "true American" and/or other things that get them all turgid and spermy like "Patriot". Then they can all sit back in the afterglow and say, really meaning it this time, "thank you for your SERVICE".
Also, since when did Obama, Bush, Barney the Purple Dinosaur, etc ask for public comments on executive orders through a government agency before the action is made??? Your blogger (not author) doesn't seem to understand the subject of their sky is falling rant.
From your link:
"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) are accepting public comments on the executive action until March 16, 2015."
Yes, leftist troll, the BATFE, which works for the Justice Dept, which works for & promotes the agenda of the Obama administration. And no, you don’t normally get traffic tickets from the Federal government, that’s a state & local government function. I guess you didn’t take elementary Civics before you dropped out of public school. Get a brain.
I seem to remember (from elementary Civics) that the president is the head of the government however does not directly control ever single department under him. That is the reason you Rush radio listening sheep throw around the term “administration” so carelessly being you cannot blame Obama for something so you do the next best thing and create the weakest association.
If Obama is to blame for this the president (oops, his “administration!”) in 1986 who allowed the LAW to pass with ever so convenient ‘exemptions’ (which can be removed WITHOUT legislative actions) is real guilty party. I just hope and pray the ultimate conservative superhero, Reagan wasn’t in office during that time….or was this all Carter’s fault?
You sir must be ignorant or a shill for the abolishment of the 2nd amendment. I suspect you do understand that all depts in the federal govt report to the president. The politically appointed heads of the departments ALL serve at the pleasure at the president. To say the president is not responsible for actions of HIS govt is similar to saying a CAPT is not responsible for his ship!
So what are you: 1. Ignorant? Or 2. A shill for the democrats?
Assert direct control over individual departments, you mean like the IRS, DHS, NSA, DNR or the EPA? And who appoints the leaders of these departments? Fuck Reagan and Limpbaugh, I am sick and tired of the US government taking away my freedoms. When did someone use steel tipped rounds to commit a crime, or directly, kill a LEO? And when was Body Armor used to commit a crime, the bank robbery of LA, the movie theater in Colorado, over react much? Face it, they are scared that everyone is getting fed up with their stupidity and they are afraid some nut job is going to go postal on them.
When was the last time the government got together and gave us more freedoms, e.g. Women's right to vote?
Sign the petition or don't, I personally don't care, I signed it.
I am not against the petition nor do not think armor piecing ammo or body armor should be illegal. (I own level 3 body armor and stock XM855) I was just commenting on how some people turn everything to some massive conspiracy headed by the big mean Obama. Chicken little(s) in full force suggesting everything from ATF letters to wait times at their kid’s school bus stops are due to “the current administration” and accuse anyone who voices their opinion as a "troll" or somehow less American than they are. I served my country…something I am willing to bet no one in my anti-fan club did.
I'd like to skull fuck you, lying piece of shit. I served my country, what in the merchant marines? The coast guard. Maybe as a MP, you seem the MP type. The type while in the service that we wanted to drag you out back and teach you a thing or two. You are a human Paraquat.
Army Calvary Scout. You? Seems like many of you here are so obsessed with gay sex. Did you get caught during boot and kicked out? Is that the "bone" you have to pick? Would you like to see my DD214? (I'll give you a minute to Google what that is) Full Metal Jacket is the closest you have come to military service if "skull fuck" is the first, last, and ONLY insult you could come up with.
Ignore the demented troll--it will go away soon.
Troll = Someone capable of forming and holding an opinion of their own which differs from yours (how dare I think for myself!!!!) and is not afraid to speak their mind. The term is often used when someone is unable to actually defend their position / point but feels the need to cast insults anyway. This type of person does tend to “go away” rather quickly after they realize the people they are speaking to are so blinded with rage that the use of REASON is seen as an attack as opposed to part of a simple, harmless conversation.
Speaking of rage, I'd like to cut open your chest cavity and dip my nuts in your soul. How's that for blinded rage? Your a tool, everyone knows it. Your misguided diatribes are uneducated, mislead, and you obvious don't have any common sense that you drill sergeant instilled in you....you know since you claim to have served your country. Lying piece of shit. We are just waiting for your claim of valor next.
When my sense of self worth is derived from your expectations of other people's opinions of me you will be the first person to know. I know what oath I swore, I know what I did, and I could not care less about your tired movie quotes ATTEMPTING to bring me to your level. `Dip your nuts` in that coward.
Show me the movie that I am quoting that from? You can't. Just like how you can't say no to getting Tea bagged by random dudes. Besides someone who claims to be the "eyes and ears" of Your claimed "service", you sure as fuck don't really comprehend much logic do you? Let alone understand the big picture. Your a disgrace. And this coming from my earned perspective as "first in, last out". I mean I know you 19D's had a really tough time in basic (cry me a river) with getting prepared to back us up, but leave the real political discussions and representation of the Army for the ones who Truely were "the first in" and in combat roles instead of sitting pretty all day in you HVee. You should have enough sense to read between those lines. Than again, I'm likely talking to someone that had a ASVAB of <90....and that's being liberal. You should understand that term, libtard. You have to be the biggest dumbshit to continue to comment and bring your bullshit, nonsense and lies into this arena. I also don't need to see your "DD214" as seeing your comments on here I bet it's a laughable joke. Like your whole life is a joke. Now go man your post and observe & listen and let the real discussion up to the men. Maybe you just might learn a thing or two. Or go back to watching Apocalypse Now, punk.
An ASVAB score of 90 would mean you were in the top 90 percent you stupid fuck!
Sorry you didn't qualify for the community watch let alone the merchant marines. Hope you have a nice life as I am quite bored of your constant references to your balls and (allegedly) unintentional movie quotes. Maybe if you get your body mass index below 50 percent and get a GED before you turn 36 the National Guand might accept you and your dream
of being a Scuba Ninja can finally come true.
Pathetic.....
email your congress person as well voicing your displeasure. sitting and complaining to the internet or your buddy does nothing