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Manufactured in the Molot factory the Russian Vepr is the Mercedes-Benz of Russian Semi-Auto Shotguns. Includes one original Molot 5 round mag. Unlike our previous VEPR-12's this latest version has a Factory Fixed Position Butt Stock, with no welded hinge mechanism. See image 4 to the left for exact difference. Add up to four extra mags to your shotgun order and they'll ship for free.
Product Specs
12 gauge
Self regulating gas system
Semi-Automatic
Russian Shotgun
5 round mag
18 in Barrel
38.5 in Overall Length
Fixed Tubuler Stock
License Requirement FFL
Manufacturer Ucyildiz Arms
Mfg. Part Number VEPR12
UPC 645611610004
Caliber/Gauge 12 GA
Item #: LNGVEPR-12-OFWS
UPC: 645611610004
MPN: VEPR12
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I am *very* surprised to see a comment like that about Atlantic. My experience with them has been good and I have seen a lot of positive comments about them. I can understand your frustration with the ammo but how do you like the VEPR12?
Good question. I haven't shot it yet. Plans were to break it in with the Wolf ammo and then mix in other ammo after the Wolf. Side note: I have order AK's from Classic, AR's from CDNN and numerous handguns from misc. places and never have had the bullshit I have had with Atlantic. Just my .02, but I won't deal with again.
Sorry you are having issues with them. As a suggestion, you might want to post your experiences in a civil way in their forum within the Industry section of ar15.com (http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_2/158_Atlantic_Firearms.html...). I am not doubting what you say but as you know, reputation is everything in the gun community and since these comments are public they should be given the opportunity to respond.
I don't have any affiliation with Atlantic nor do I know anyone there personally (or over the 'net, for that matter). Whether you deal with them again or not, I hope the issue is resolved in a good way and that you have an absolute blast with your VEPR 12.
Ordered one only took 8 days to get to my FFL. Nice to have
the 200 rounds of buckshot. Only problem is I need more magazines .
@Classic (& every other retailer out there):
Sales are slumping, tell the importer we want the welded open folder that we can put our own 922r on and cut the weld.
Folder! Folder! Folder!
Come on, everyone now!
These are not banned. None of the Vepr rifles are impacted by a ban. It was initially thought they would be banned, but prices have fallen acordingly.
These are pretty good deals, Atlantic has the same offer. Figured the price would keep going up after the EO banned them and supplies dwindled, but they're staying pretty low for a quality semi. Snag one, you won't regret it - and go for the tubular stock over the folder anyway, you can put a bump fire stock on it and use it for home defense or to hunt dragons :-D
Read closely. This is NOT the folding stock version. If you are looking for the folding stock, you will easily spend $200 to convert if you're lucky.....the folding stock versions will probably never be imported again. They started with wooden/solid stocks, then folders welded open, now this new solid style. It will take a little while for someone to start producing adapters to convert to folder that are economically priced.
I own this gun and it works great. The 12 round magazine is pretty long but it works great and to be honest It really doesn't make a difference when I am shooting it. I put a Limb saver from Walmart for a buttpad and it works great. Still after 12 rounds of buckshot you are ready to take a break. A 10 round magazine might be a good compromise.
You don't need a recoil pad on the stock. Shooting a long gun that has significant recoil is all about technique--similar to the push-pull used to hold a handgun really stable. When shooting the VEPR12, grasp the foreend tightly with your left hand, pushing outward. Simultaneously, pull the pistol group toward your body with your right hand, and rest the buttstock lightly against your chest/shoulder. The tension will not only control the recoil, it will enable you to get very fast and accurate follow-up shots. You will be able to shoot all day using this technique. I can shoot 200 rounds in a day with no issue. My 13 year old stepson shoots the VEPR12 with this technique and loves it.
Been looking at semi-auto shotguns for a few months now but hadn't really considered the Russian/eastern-European models with magazines. But now that these are banned from import, and reviews seem to be favorable from most, I went ahead and ordered 2. Hopefully that wasn't a bit hasty, but the price seems fair based on the current (and even past) market.
Also, since these are set up for the fixed stock, does that mean these folding stocks from Bonesteel Arms will work?
http://bonesteelarms.com/Vepr-12-RPK-Folding-Galil-style-stock-RPKFSGL.htm?categoryId=-1...
Leaning toward the adjustable stock so the wife and other 'smaller' members of the family can shoot comfortably.
BTW, I'd also like to try some of the SGM mags. Should I go 10 or 12 round? Leaning toward 12 round just because (no capacity limits in our state), but the mags look sooooo long. Maybe 10 is a good compromise?
I'd suggest going to vepr.org or akfiles.com with your questions.
There are a lot more authoritative people there.
Wrong picture. This is still the fixed tubular stock model not the wood model
The picture & text match, both saying fixed tubular stock?
It's good to see that folks are aware of the stock not being a folder. Also, this does not show left side safety selector for this run. That being said, this is still something you can't get more imported. It's an entry level Vepr. It's a great shotgun! Enjoy it if you buy it!
You are right - no left side safety. But to your point, the barrel, receiver and all the other important parts are there. I'm pretty sure that she'll go bang when I pull the trigger. This one is a really cool shotgun! Woo-hoo!
I just got mine from Classic last Tuesday, not sure if the stock can be changed easily.
Yeah I agree. My gunsmith said that we would need to change the rear trunnion over to one that would allow for a folder. I think that the receiver may have to be notched too if we want to use a factory folder. That's just based on observations of pictures of the folder version.
I've wanted this thing for a long time. I had to pull the trigger. Now hurry up and get here so I can pour more of my time and money into you!
Same exact situation. So pumped for it to get here and already have a variety of loads to shoot through it. Did you pick up any extra mags? I got another factory 5 rounder as well as 2-10 round and 1-12 round SGM mags since they were cheaper than anywhere else I could find and shipped free with the order.
dudes i will get an rem 930 with an xrail what up.
So you should be able to put any AK fixed stock on this receiver right?
Asking because I was looking at getting a Fostech Bumpski stock, you know, for legal purposes....
The Vepr 12 folder could not be swaped for a AK stock due to a different style of rear trunnion. I have e mailed Classic asking for clarification on this model with a non folding capable stock. Anybody have one of this latest version with the fixed tube style stock? The trunnion will tell the tale. If I hear from Classic I will post the info.
that thing is going to destroy ur shoulder then gun, plus you will more than likely have some jams with it, but really i hope it works like an aa12 for you bro.
Uh oh...... That didn't take long. Kevin says told you so rj. Haha just playin. Pickin 1 up right now. Almost bought 1 back when they were $800 but hesitated and then the ban came. So glad I held off when they were like $1100 or more though...
I bought one last June, a week befor the Obamaban, $800 w free shipping. I love it! Not one hiccup.
How's that Obanaban working for you Mr President?
i paid $1025 for one of these a few months ago...that was including all fees and shipping and ffl fee....at this price...i am buying another one.....the old lady is just going to have to deal with it!!
Uggg, I paid almost as much as you. It's a total monster of a gun, friggin' absolutely love it. When my C&R arrives in the next few days, I'm gonna put a dent in Classic's inventory.
i heard this shotgun just loves to jam how does your run?
Not a single jam shooting OO from an SGM 12 round mag. I have 10rd Russian Vepr Mags, but haven't tried since the SGM is working so well. I heard a lot of complaints about the SGMs, but have not had any problems, but I have only been shooting OO, may be different with lighter shots, but just guessing at this point, will post if I have issues with other shots.
Had a handful of jams right off the bat trying to dispose of some cheap economy loads I had laying around. After some interweb reading, seems several other new owners have ran into the same problems with their SAIGA and VEPR's. One owner suggested switching over to some heavy Federal loads for about 50-75 rounds, so I thought what the heck. After doing so, my VEPR will now eat anything I feed it (including that cheap economy stuff)...no hiccups, belches, or flatulence of any kind. In short, it's become so dependable that it's almost boring...almost.
Unfortunately, like Joe and Slaughter, I too overpaid for mine ($950). For $799, I just couldn't resist and now have another on the way. I'm now planing to add some aftermarket items to my current VEPR, with some tid bits I located @ Carolina Shooter Supply. I think I'll sit on the new one for a while to see what happens with the market.
I'm a big fan of classicarms, and this is a pretty solid deal for a VEPR-12.
I will say, I expect the importation issues to clear within the next 2 years, and at that point VEPRS should creep back down to normal pricing (ie, $800 for a VEPR-12, and $600 for the others).
Yeah- just like what happened with Norinco right? Oh wait... you still can't get them can you? Does anyone remember the president who banned Norinco from further import?
The difference is that Chinese guns were banned back then. The current ban is on a particular company. All that needs to happen is swap the company name. Rumor at Shot Show is that KC is getting a US plant and their products will be available here as they will no longer be an import
another price drop $50
Hype is over.. Put it back to $799 and they will sell even though that still overpriced.
Never dealt with classic before. Opinions? Atlantic is charging $30 for shipping.
I have purchased from Classic twice now. Both fine transactions, so even though people bad mouth the owner, I would buy from them again.
That being said, Atlantic is one of the best vendors out there. I have never needed service, but the consensus opinion is: if you ever need anything (defect, missing item, warranty, etc) Atlantic is the way to go.
I bet if you called Atlantic, they meet you somewhere in the middle. A+
Can u put a different stock on this? Like a tactical adjustable stock?
Physically yes. Legally, sort of. If you change out anything, you are now subject to the rules of BATF 922r. All that means is you have to remove the required number of evil parts and replace them with parts that are made in the USA. (You know how corporate lobbyists write our laws to benefit themselves.)
I'll ask you a questions, is it because it's a non-functioning folder? If so, the better option is to get all the 922r parts installed then cut the spot weld and have a fully functioning, sweet a$$ side folder.
Mind the laws in your own area, I'm not giving legal advice. YMMV
If it's because you don't like that it is more of a Galil with the tubular stock and you want a stamped look like the Khyber folders, once you meet the requirements of 922r you can customize your rifle or shotty however you wish.
My guess these guys got these Veprs when the Russian ruble fell 25% to a dollar, the the ruble is back up in the last week so these deals probably will not happen again on anything Russian for quite some time. Buy it if you can.
I ordered one for the $765. Good catch, likes like they changed the price and did free shipping. If you look at their last post you will see the$765, and $21 shipping even to Alaska.
Where is it $765 it says $799 when I click on ot!
I posted to this area because it was for the Vepr 12, not because it was for Classsic. You are correct, I should have posted in another area/forum. I have sent them several emails and a VM. As for your questions:
Did you send them your order number? Of course I did
Do you have an order number? Yes
Did you even buy this shotty from them? "Them" as in Classic: No, but yes form Atlantic.
Are you trying to besmirch their great reputation? No. this is just my experience
Are you associated with another vendor who wants to make inroads on Atlantic's market share? No. Im in medicine, Cardiology.