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Don't buy this stuff, not worth any money you save. It's rough and gritty, it seemed already corroded even though I shot it the same day I bought it from academy. It will really dirty up your gun and your hands, and I say this as someone who shoots Tula pretty frequently. It worked fine in the glock magazines, but the followers kept getting stuck in the pmag 17 and 15s. Never had that happen with any other ammo. Fired fine through the gun, but wow were those things dirty after just 300 rounds through 2 guns. I've gone 5-600 in a gun without cleaning plenty of times, these were dirtier than those times at just 150 or so each. Also, after loading up 5 or 6 mags with them before going to the range, my fingers were completely black. And the insides of the guns were far dirtier than usual. I took them completely apart rather than a usual field strip because they were so dirty. Whatever they use to coat those things makes a lot more of a mess than any other steel case ammo I've fired. YMMV but I'd steer clear of this ammo. The little bit of money you save is not worth it, IMO.