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FMK Sniper, Patriot II & Recon 9mm Handguns

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My only issue is with the people posting that the weapon is on sale and available; only to find out that the weapon has been on back order for quite some time. I don't know why, unless they are making money for doing it. But it's very aggravating to those of us wanting to buy it.
Don't post it until they have them in stock!

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These pistols are so hit and miss coming out of the factory. I have bought, traded for, etc 5-6 of these since they first came out. The most frustrating part is that one will work well, fairly reliable, good accuracy, and end up a bargain for someone on a tight budget. HOWEVER! there certainly are those which they are about complete junk! I do not know why this happens but I can only speculate there is a lot of manufacturing problems and lack of serious quality control leaving the factory. The main thing is feeding and ejecting reliability. lots of hung shells, ghost feeds, chambering problem and the most prevalent issue, not going into battery when it should be. I think it's weak recoil springs that do not have enough force to cycle the rounds. The upper is fairly lightweight so a strong recoil spring surely is needed. Any sort of "limp writing" is also a main reason for such failures. On the flip side, I've had these come in perfect working condition and never had any sort of failures during testing for reviews. so yeah it's truly a risk one must take. personally, I would rather buy a Taurus PT111 G2. or even a hipoint compact 9mm. As always this is purely my own experience, opinion, and review. You are entitled to yours and I will not bash you for that or belittle you for your own opinion. I ask you do the same

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Recommend do not buy. Picked up a Recon model for about $200. Grip and ergo of the gun is not bad, but had constant problems when it came to operation. Mostly, I encountered the failure to go into battery issue. I am pretty sure it had everything to do with the magazine,....the only one it came with.

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are the barrels interchangeable with glock 19?

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I swapped the factory recoil spring with a Glock 19 factory recoil spring and it solved my issues of failure to go into battery. I picked up another FMK that did not have this issue at all. Hope this helps you out

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So you needed spare parts from another manufacturer to make a new gun function? What happens if you do not have spare parts to swap?

Either way.....what a glowing review!

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I think we would have bigger issues if one no longer can buy glock springs.

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Wow buddy, you seem to troll the comments section looking for something to throw negativity at… I guess you intend to entertain yourself rather than help others? Why are you always so irked by everyone?

Yes, it’s not good to have a brand new gun not function properly right out of the box. In this particular situation, it seems to be a rather common issue and an even easier fix. A few dollars (mine cost $4) for what is likely the most common recoil spring on the market, and the gun runs perfectly fine. These are for people who like to tinker and don’t mind dealing with an issue that might arise. People aren’t buying this FMK expecting to get an actual Glock… it’s a $125-250 gun.

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"Wow buddy, you seem to troll the comments section looking for something to throw negativity at"

And what praytell are you up to?

Your $250 gun after $150 in break in ammo, spare parts to make it cycle out of the box, plus a couple of mags costs as much as a Glock 19. Glock was nice enough not to nickel-and-dime you, works out of the box, and I am guessing has much better customer service / repair. Now, if you bought a Taurus, Mossberg, S&W, etc they would have done all the same AND you'd still have hundred or two in your pocket.

Now, I am in no way a gun snob as I mentioned above, and in another post, there are PLENTY of pistols in this price point that don't require holding your mouth a certain way or breaking out a steel file in order to make it cycle a full mag. Not much to ask at all, actually pretty much the entire point of a cheap firearm is function as no one is going to be using this as a wall-hanger.

I have nothing against the people of this site (for the most part), however suggesting people purchase a gun that even fanboys admit does not work out of the box is just plain dumb and does a disservice to your fellow forummates. If this was a $125 gun....I'd agree with you....but it is not.

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I intended to spread no negativity, I actually aim to only be helpful. You can probably see that by my history of posts. Are you able to say the same? (Rhetorical question really)

I purchased one brand new for $200 and it only needed a $4 spring to run fine. NO $150 ammo needed for your break in period. Bought another used for $125, since I work for a FFL on weekends, all factory parts and guy shot less than one box through it. Has run perfectly fine with all factory mags since I got it. Maybe he shot a $150 box of ammo to run well?

Give people correct information and let them make their decisions. It’s dumb for you to ignore and embellish facts, but I’ll refrain from engaging in anymore of this childish back and forth because a wiseman once said, “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

Be well, sir

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I'll only comment to this one line as you are indeed spreading negativity from your high horse.

"It’s dumb for you to ignore and embellish facts"

It is dumb for you to ignore all the posts below yours with people complaining about this pistol, some even claiming it required massive amounts of "break in." Some quotes:

"I actually put through nearly 500 rounds and try to break it in but in the end it never did."

“This is not a gun but a toy.”

“out of the box they SUCK!”

“They have alot of failures to fire, battery issues, and stovepiping.”

“By 200/250 rounds all those problems go away and your left with a decent low budget pistol.” (BTW 250 rounds at the cheapest 9MM is currently at comes out to $150)

One guy even had to replace a recoil on a brand new gun but he is too dumb to see how that might be a really, really bad sign of how the rest of the “toy” is constructed.

“Give people correct information and let them make their decisions”

I am, even quoting some independent sources ;)

PS: "Be well, sir?" Does that make you feel better after all the name calling?

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Hahaha… I am “name calling” and arrogant for trying to end a childish exchange that isn’t helpful to anyone?

I sincerely regret the fact that I forgot to unsubscribe from this thread and I’ve wasted more of my time.

Please, go try and argue with one of the many other members you seem to target with you tirades. Why would you waste so much of your time arguing with strangers on the internet instead of doing ANYTHING ELSE that might actually be productive? That is more of a rhetorical question again, for you to ponder, so that maybe you spend your time better moving forward… MAYBE even helping people… unless sadly that is all you have left to do in life

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Please follow your own advice before expecting others to do the same. Be well, sir.

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I'll never understand why guns in this price point tend to have $40 mags, unless they are subsidizing the cost of the gun knowing people will be forced to buy grossly overpriced magazines later and that the gun will never be popular enough for 3rd party companies to make competitive aftermarket offerings. They could have used glock patterned mags and not had this issue at all.....

I guess they know anyone willing to buy a $250 glock knockoff called the "sniper" or "patriot" will most likely not take the time to look past the initial sticker price.

I don't imagine this is crappy gun but for this price you can buy a Taurus, or for $30-50 more buy countless name brand budget guns (Ruger, Mossberg, etc) that don't require $100-150 worth of 'break in' ammo and ship with at least 1 spare mag. If a gun takes that much ammo to break in, then any potential buyer should factor that into the total cost of purchase.

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At this time. The Patriot II is available the day after Independence Day.

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I really want this to be a good gun. I like the idea of it. I don't need it, but it certainly fills a niche in the market between Hi-Point and Ruger. If it, you know, worked.

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I want this

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Some people don’t have a lick of common sense. It’s evident on this thread. Cool Stories though

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The best buy IMHO is the Berreta APX full size for $315 if you can still find them.

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Yup, great guns. I bought a full size and a sub-compact cheap. Very underrated IMO.

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From every review I've read. From every video I've watched about these guns. There's a reason why they're less than $300 cost in the middle of the pandemic. This is not a gun but a toy. Not something to trust your life on. Not even a very good range toy. One reviewer said, "with the names given to these guns they're trying to sell to the airsoft crossover market. Get something better than this. If you have 10 guns then yeah get one of these cheap." Better yet as one reviewer in a video said. "Don't buy this, buy a high point. You know it's ugly but it shoots well. You can trust your life on a high point. It's ugly it's big it's plastic. But it will keep shooting when you need it too. This, well don't trust on this." To me that was very shocking.

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Made in the USA. Attractive price too. Not many reviews out there though.

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Not many, but they're all bad. Why would handgun be selling for $230 during panic buying market

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I have owned 5 of these pistols. Heres what I can tell you. At first, out of the box they SUCK! They have alot of failures to fire, battery issues, and stovepiping. BUT heres the thing. If you work thru this situation, have patience and get rounds downrange after about 100 rounds you start to see this pistol come alive. By 200/250 rounds all those problems go away and your left with a decent low budget pistol. The key to this is wether or not you have the time and patience to work with the gun and give it a good break in period. I have experienced the same situation with much more expensive guns like alot of Kahr brand pistols. I am no gunsmith so I cannot say why this is but obviously they need to be broken in and get things worn a bit to work right. In the end of that break in period It is fine. I actually love the grip and point of this pistol. It fits my hand very well and recoil is super light for a small pistol. Surprisingly accurate as well. The triggers are not horrible but due take time to learn. They are a little heavy as with most cheap budget pistols.
Overall Id say if you need either a plinker, truck gun or a nightstand weapon and are on a budget, this is a fair choice. Just do not buy it and throw it in your nightstand and never actually shoot it. If you do, you risk it not working properly if and when you do need it to save your life. Get out and shoot it! at least 250 rounds. That also gives you time to learn the pistol and its characteristics. If you cannot do this, then I suggest buying a different gun that will cost more money. As always, this is my experience and opinion. I will kindly respect your opinion, please do the same.
PS. One other small piece of advice, do not over lube this gun. It hates too much oil, I actually prefer dry graphite lube for this pistol, again dont know why, it just is.

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I had the same issue with two Ruger 9E pistols bought brand new at the same time and it took around 200 rounds and leaving the slide locked back for a week as other people had stated it helped with theirs. After that they run great even with cheap steel cases rounds for target.

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Guns alot of times, especially cheaper budget guns are mass produced and obviously are not hand refined like expensive guns. Guns are mechanical in nature which just like cheap cars, sometimes need a little break in and wear in procedure. Takes time for all the parts to wear into each other allowing for better fit and movement of the parts like slide to frame. More expensive guns have this done at the factory by hand, cheap guns do it the old fashioned way. Sorta like an old set of drum brakes. lol.
But Currently I do agree that with current ammo prices, not worth the money. I have done some light sanding and filing off slag and rough spots on cheap guns to make them run better, Just be sure you know what your doing before hand. That way you still have that hand next time you shoot it!

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With ammo prices these days I'd rather spend the extra $200 on a better gun

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with prices now, Id agree

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Definitely. I had that exact issue that Livinitup1976 was describing with Canik TP9SC. It was my second piece and oh boy, it was malfunctioning pretty much every magazine I put it though. Bang bang click. I looked up the issue and apparently it's the break in period that requires 124gr NATO rounds or something. I actually put through nearly 500 rounds and try to break it in but in the end it never did. I gave up and traded that in. Definitely spend extra for a better gun that's good right out of box. Glock, Sig, Beretta, Walther, S&W, Ruger, H&K, CZ. They're good reliable name brand for good reason.

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