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Just ordered mine

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Hopefully it's still on sale by Friday and I'll buy one! Haha

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Should be : )

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I like mobilebyrd's comment. A high quality nitride BCG MPI HPI is just great with me also, just NB is nice to clean up. That the main difference. Some folks out there have sold cheapo BCG with NB plating and people think they are getting the best. Cam pin wear and cam shoulders might occur less if that area was lubbed with HP grease. Just using a NB cam pin might improve things.

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These regularly go on sale for around $105. Also, aside from NB being the coating of the month, I've not read anything good about them from the people who run full auto ranges. Those folks use Nitride BCGs and specifically mentioned the NB and NT BCGs failing (usually on the first day). So, what's the point aside from it being pretty? It's a coating and all coatings fail. I just don't get it. Nitride I get. NB and NT for a BCG I don't get (FCG yes, BCG, no).

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One of the best quality BCG for a new build. You will never have a problem. The NB cleans up like a charm and functions like a champ. I build custom high dollar AR 15,s and Fail Zero is always on my do list.

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I'm in for one to pair with my BA barrel that I just purchase from Granite Ridge for a fantastic price. Since Ballistic Advantage uses the FailZero coating on their receiver extensions, and after reading that swapping bolts and carriers isn't such a hot idea, I thought I'd start off right with both brand new. I have to say though, I'm liking Granite Ridge's prices and free shipping along with the ease of checkout, all the little things that add up to a great experience buying AR stuff on the Internet. A huge difference and sense of integrity with these folks as opposed to some sellers here who I refuse to even name. Kudos to great companies, Thanks guys.

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Granite Ridge rocks, and these appear to be EXCELLENT quality with good QC, but why on earth is NiB even relevant these days? QPQ nitride is so much better in every way, including price. Go that route.

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Thanks for your business! I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied with those products. Any issues, let me know : )

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Wish you guys had some 7.62x39 options as I can never find any Nib. At this point it's tough to find any options

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I bought a Failzero BCG a few months back for $99

The most I've paid for a nickel boron BCG was $134 shipped for a WMD full mass. Not trying to be mean, but the laser markings don't add value. Most of these nickel boron bolts that are sold by numerous merchants are all coated at one or two places to begin with. I personally prefer Failzero. All my AR's in 6.8 and below have either a Failzero or WMD.

I just happen to like the ease of cleaning. If someone asks me if nickel boron BCG's perform better or really needed over a plain jane non nickel boron BCG, the honest answer is no.

As far as this deal goes, not really a deal, but the free shipping and discount for buying more than one is a nice touch by Granite Ridge.

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Thanks for the comment. I know the deal you speak of, Primary must have had a truckload of them to offload at that low of a price. It was an excellent deal at $99 though, that's well below dealer cost.

How do you like your WMD? I've been meaning to look into them.

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I like them both equally, one just has a different recipe for their plating. I wasn't trying to knock your price, I'm just a good shopper. The Primary Arms deal was a one off holiday sale. I know your a good merchant, ordered from you many times.

PS, to Janizary, I had my fill of cleaning rifles in the military, I remember one day in training we were all running around like decapitated chickens shooting full auto using M200 blanks, and nothing fouls your rifle more than blanks.

My rifle at the start of the day was spit polished clean in and out. That day I pretended to be shooting, but I didn't fire one blank, not one. At the end of the exercise we all sat and cleaned our rifles for hours. I only had to clean the external parts of my rifle. But those dang drill instructors can find something dirty on the worlds cleanest rifle, every time.

I owned an AR the day I turned 18, well before my military service, and knew full well about M200 blanks, so I vowed to not use them if possible. Had they caught on to my charade, I surely would have found myself in KP duty hell, but luckily nobody was the wiser. ;)

PS, Nickel Boron cleanup would be short work if one shot M200 blanks. Wish the military would adopt NiB, but more often than not, the best product usually doesn't get the DOD contract.

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Not Crabby, but wanted to comment.

Being a serial AR builder (its a disease) and a perchance for trying things out, I've used FZ, WMD, other BCGs coated by Exo, etched, non-etched, and lots of stuff from nitride to NickleTeflon (by a number of different OEs).

Comparing my FZs to my WMDs I haven't found any performance differences between them, even running them on low lube for over 1K rounds to see how they hold up. Not had issues with any of the BCGs I have from either FZ or WMD.

After a few hundred rounds they all turn a burnt gold color, though my FZ with entirely too high of a round count has since turned a bright silvery-mottled-dark grey (still runs, new gas rings). (My Rainiers are still a silvery color after lots of use, but that is another story)

I would have subjectively given the WMDs I own a slight edge in tactile lubricity, but there is no science behind that, just me rubbing a finger down the carrier and being slightly easier to get carbon off of.

I'd really like to know who does AIM's finishing. While I have a few (from different gens) of their NiBX offereings, their surface treatment is both a slightly different color, a some lower subjective lubricity, and somewhat less easy to clean (probably a function of lubricity) than either the FZ or WMD. Frankly, I prefer AIM's V2 Nitride group over their NiBX offerings. Easier to clean up than the two generations of NiBX BCGs I have used from them after a roughly equal amount of use.

I've been on a nickel teflon binge lately. Really, really liking performance, lubricity, and the stupidly easy clean up on NP3 BCGs.

I am with Sam on the comment regarding 'need'. Phosphate BCGs work just fine. I just don't like cleaning them ;)

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Thanks for the insight on the BCG coating.

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Very nice!

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TO: Granite Ridge Outfitters: Is the $40 difference between the $110 Ares and the $150 Fail Zero worth it? That's almost 50% and I'm really wondering if the quality is all that different?
Thanks!

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I know this info is probably too late to help you, but to add an answer to this question, both the Ares/Aries bcgs in NIB have a reputation for the coatings wearing prematurely, as evidenced by said coatings flaking off. While I'm still piecing together my first AR, I've done tons of research into the NIB bcgs, with the Aries/Ares both having the flaking issue. For my money, I'd hold ou\ and pay a little more for one of the other offerings. BTW, I like this dealer's frankness and seemingly upfront answers to some questions other retailers would either ignore or evade/BS their way through the tough answers. While it won't happen on this deal, I will be definitely be keeping an eye out for offerings from Granite Ridge Outfitters in the future!

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I'm confident that you'd be happy with either one of them at their price points, as we've had great success with both brands. The extra cost on the FailZero BCG comes from the EXO NiB coating (often regarded as the best coating on the market), C-158 HPT/MPI bolt, and laser etched logos on carrier and bolt. If I could only get one though, I'd go with the FailZero.

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Just updated the information to include more detailed specs on the bolt carrier group. Thank you!

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I remember they ran for over $400.

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Things were definitely crazy 2 to 3 years ago.

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