Description

Product Specs
7.62x39 caliber
Accepts standard AMD 65 stamped receivers
When assembled accepts all AK-47 High cap mags and drums
New U.S. Barrel.
Entire rifle forward is pre assembled and original bolt is headspaced to barrel.
All unit is pre finished with a black parkerized finish
Professionally packaged.
Ready for final receiver assembly.

Country of Manufacture United States
License Requirement None
Manufacturer FEG Hungary
Mfg. Part Number amd65kit
Caliber/Gauge 7.62x39

ACCAMD-65-KIT-BYB

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these are shit. They use butter soft ESS barrels, and there have been MULTIPLE complaints over poor headspacing and shitty build quality over at the files

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Don't color in the lines!
The wire stock sucks! I have since bought an AR15 whale tail and adapter and love it.

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I'm new to this. Will I be able to build this on my own?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNDbUYR8JsQ

I am new to the AK building world. The above video explains the complexity and costs involved with AK building/assembly. Very different and more complex assembly vs. AR-15's IMHO. 80% AR-15 lowers are less complicated than 80% AK lowers as well IMHO. I decided I want to get into AK's so my costs involved are as follows AMD 65 Kit $299 shipped from Classic, a 12 ton Press $93 new from Menards. Kalishnakov USA 100% receiver $100 with FFL from Centerfire Systems. Go/No Go gauges $53 from Brownells. I have not purchased the rivet tool yet, but will probably modify a $13 Harbor Freight 24" Bolt Cutter. The other shop press jigs needed to remove/reinstall the barrel $80 Etsy, and rivets $8.99 Brownells. All in my 1st AMD 65 will cost around $650 due to the tools and equipment I had to purchase. My next one will cost quite a bit less ;-)

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No you will not.You need a blank reciever and a press to press all the pins into that reciever.It's a pain in the ass and not easy for someone not good with tools : /

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anyone know of any better/cheaper kits out there at the moment ?

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Looks pretty dorky with that long barrel. Save your money and buy the genuine article with the correct chrome barrel.

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I have bought from classic and am very skeptical of their descriptions and grading. I bought and paid for a gun to be hand picked and the gun was rusty with no bluing it was described as good. I don't consider pitted, rusty and 30% finish to be good and sure as hell shouldn't have been charged 20 extra for select. I doubt anyone who buys this will think it is excellent to like new.

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Thanks for your comment/input!

If I may; what if you knew a guy that would be willing to cerakote any/all of the components for free, would it be a good deal then? I've been meaning to add an AK to my stock, thinking this (constructing one) might be the best approach (given my connections with manufacturers and certified "Cerakote" specialists), assembly and what not wouldn't cost me anything other than time...

I do not want to sacrifice quality/reliability for price or cosmetics though. I (try) and only keep firearms that are the most reliable in their class.
That said, are there more reliable AK's out there than using this package as a baseline? Is it worth going all the way up to Saiga, or can you make them with select upgraded components (barrels, triggers, etc...) kind of like how custom built AR 15's can be tailored to equate to the "Pro's"?

*No point in having an expensive rock that looks like a gun, but doesn't act like one.

**Thanks again for your input and thanks in advance for any additional input/guidance you may have on my questions.

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Will this work with any AK lower receiver?

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All the parts can be fitted to a standard receiver except for the wire folding stock. It works but you'd need a new AK buttstock.

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I bought a century built AMD from Buds maybe 4 years ago, shipped for 279.
The paint job as the the purtiest, but I sold it six months late r to an idiot for 1,000 bucks when the fear gripped the nation.

Of course that's nothing like the fear coming this fall when the sheep realize/accept Hilary is gonna be the next marionette, I mean president...

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Thank goodness you can't predict the future. #HillaryLost

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And unfortunately, what we ended up with isn’t much better.

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And Eric Cartman won....

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Thanks for the reply texasmojo!!

I just saw this, but I already ordered an amd65 80% prebent from cold steel solutions.

As I wait a few weeks for it to come (they're slammed right now), I will decide whether to go with screws or rivets.

Not expecting to save money building it, as I see them going for $499, but I'm really excited to learn whatever I will learn through the process.

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Thinking about getting this, looking for advice...

I've built 2 80% ARs. No idea what to do for AK receiver.

I've browsed a few stores and blogs, have a couple ideas, but I'm looking for an opinion from someone willing to give a beginner some advice. Thanks!

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If you already own an ak then it would be so much easier to copy the receiver specs of where to drill the holes where all the rivets go using a cheap harbor freight caliper. I'm assuming you don't own an ak.
If you are dead set on going the 80% route, then I would highly recommend getting the prebent polish receiver with the glued on paper blueprint that shows you where to drill all the holes needed for the rivets. If remember this cost around $45 and you still have to weld in the rails.
If you go the flat receiver method, be prepared to buy at least 1 or 2 extra receiver flats as you will most likely ruin your first by not bending at the perfect specs like I did.
If you want it to look nice then just buy a built ak. If you have to go %80 route and just want a functioning ak then the above method is what I recommend. You will NOT save money by building yourself. You will come out even if you are creative and already have tools.
I built an ak from a flat receiver and populated the barrel with all kinds of stuff laying around in my garage. It was very time consuming and I almost gave up. It's hard without the expensive proper akbuilder tools.

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I'd be all over this if the 12" length barrel was used. 16" barrel defeats the purpose of an amd.

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This is a great deal. I like that the hassle of populating the barrel is already finished so you don't need a press. I finished one of these using a sportsmans guide 80% blank, Childers $11 layout jig, cheap amazon tap and Tapco screw kit (only used the screws on the front trunnion) , a welder, and a few drill bits and reamers. It turned out amazing and for a low price!

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Why the fuck do the dumbshit wholesalers poison these kits with non-chrome barrels?

I'd buy 3 if they came with hammer forged chrome-lined barrels! I'd also be willing to pay more for each kit.

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It's really because no one is going to buy this set up for $500.

I understand what you are saying about the chrome lining ($20-25), but don't think for a minute that cold hammer forged barrels can be used at this price point.

Plus, who really wants to put an very expensive barrel on an AMD 65 project? Kinda like putting a Corvette engine in a Volkswagen bug as it relates to the ratio of one very expensive part versus the rest of the project.

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You can tap the holes in the front and rear trunnions and not have to use rivets. just use button head screws. Now alot of the purist will poo poo this.

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People who sneer at the screw builds are indeed purists. I agree the rivet jobs (done right and I did that too) are more esthetic but remember that grade 12 button head screw is a lot stronger than that grade 2 rivet. If you use a copper based anti-seize compound on your tap, you won't break it. That works good for drilling in heat treated steel too. Forty years of machinist work here. Another trick is to fill the cavity with JB Weld and then screw in the screws. Remember to spray the screws with brake cleaner first to get them squeaky clean...and the threaded hole too. A '47 with a SlideFire stock and 2000 rounds later could not loosen them up. Yes, I prefer rivets and I made all the equipment to install them, but for those who can't afford it or don't have the time, you probably won't wear either method out.

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Which option is more costly?

AK-Builder rivet tool: $250

Cheap tap & die set: $40 AND

Replacement front trunnion from AKfiles marketplace: $100 (Note: this is because in tapping six holes on a fully heat treated front trunnion, you are gonna break off the tap in one of the holes and need to buy another if you wanna finish the rifle.) AND

Going back and purchasing the correct tool you should have done in the first place: $250

Knowing NewMexican was right: Priceless

It should be noted that there is another vendor on the 'files that sells riveting jig sets. He is about $70 less than AK-Builder, however, I always recommend AK-Builder because Curtis should be rightfully credited with bringing AK building to the everyday man, with his tools and innovation.

I'm an AK Purist, but I recognize it's your rifle, build it however you like. Just don't expect to save money cutting corners. Besides if you were going to do this to save money, you wouldn't buy the tools to stamp your own flat. So you are gonna spend the extra money purchasing a NoDak Spud and when the screws come loose because your best option for fastening was Loctite (remember why you stake your AR BCG key instead of using Loctite? Because heat is the prescription for REMOVING Loctite) the holes will get egged and your serial numbered AK receiver is now useless (unless you want to spend even more money having it welded and re-heat treated.

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I just used a pair of bolt cutters I ground to shape, and a piece of steel I drilled with standard bits to fit the rivet heads. $40 total, maybe? My rifle has 2K rounds through it, no issues. Nothing against screw builds, but the rivets do look better. And with a cheap pair of bolt cutters, are pretty cheap to do also.

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newmexican... I really appreciate all the advise..
you made it easier to decide what direction to take with this.. I will take a look at there web. when I get more time...
and the nodak spud amd sounds like the way to go for me ..and for the ten ton press... I think I have one laying around somewhere in the kitchen drawer...lol
you've been very helpful newmex.. thanks ..

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can someone tell me where the best place to get a amd 65 receiver for this .
im new to this and I would love to buy one.
any info would be appreciated...
and do you think this is a good deal

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www.ak-builder.com

Curtis will have everything you need. It should be noted that this method requires purchasing the flat bending die to stamp the receiver from a flat. They cost around $35 with rails. As for using an 80% already bent with a drill jig, I have never seen one. It may be because there is too much to machine out what with it being a side folder and all.

However, if I could make a recommendation, I suggest buying a NoDak Spud AMD receiver already heat treated and ready to go. This will cost you about $80 more but save you from buying the bending die ($170) and a pottery kiln (I paid $350 on craigs for mine.) Going this route you would only need to purchase the riveting jig ($250) assuming you already have at least a 10 ton hydraulic press.

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2 questions:

1) What do you need a pottery Kiln for and could an oven be used here?

2) I know that there are at least two style's of rivets, the ones that pull the pin to crush the rivet and then breaks off, and the other used in the airline industry for fastening the aluminum skins on aircraft that are countersunk and smooth on one side. I might be wrong, but I believe AK's use these smooth kind of rivets and there for just required to be crush with special tool but is no where going to be close to $250 and require a 10 ton press. But I am just smart enough to be dangerous here. Can you elaborate more to hopefully help me understand better about this in regards to the AK?

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Answer to Question 1: Heat treating requires 1600 degrees. A regular kitchen oven cannot be used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyQsSv8KX0g

Special thanks to youtube's Dark Knight. He is the reason I bought a used pottery kiln.

Answer 2: All rivets crush to bind the parts together. Pop rivets (aka blind rivets) use a stem pulled from the backside to perform the crush. This method will NOT work here.

The type used in high strength industrial applications requires a bucking bar to deform the shaft and create the "other" head on the other side.

Buying AK-Builder's riveting jig is the best way to go, but if you are on a very limited budget, Toth Tool makes jaws that go into 24" bolt cutters that can hold the front and buck the back of the rivet. That is $70 plus your Home Cheapo bolt cutters $50. You can buy the made in china crap bolt cutters for half that (Home center cheap tools or Harbor Freight) but what about the LONG rivets for the rear trunnion? Even at Toth's price that tool runs $120. If you don't care how those ones look, you can achieve the relatively same bonding capacity with a BFH and an old bolt jammed in the bench vise. However, you will need to buy tools for the front trunnion rivets no matter how crappy you chose to do the long rivets in the rear.

My advice, for anybody wanting to build an AK:

If you are thinking about doing it to learn, enjoy and experience gunsmithing, by all means DO IT! You will love it more than you can imagine.

If you are doing it to try to get an affordable AK, forget it. You will never beat third world, ex-communist rifle factories on price.

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Great comment and advice brother, thank you. Upon doing some research welding appears to also be a viable option. Although the AK purists might bat an eye, they report to be just as solidly constructed. A third option is to forego the rivets and use bolts, but sounds like is the least reliable option as you have to tap the sheet metal and bolts can come loose, etc. I'm thinking about about getting this kit and going for the welding route and I know the owners of a shop who does heat treating so I might have a couple hurtles covered for myself...

As for the receivers, do these need be folded DIY?

Thanks NewMexican, VERY much appreciate your time!

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The last time Classic offered an AMD65 parts kit deal, it didn't include the pre-populated barrel, but it did include a NoDak Spud. It was a Christmas time deal and it sold for a hundred less.

I voted this up because the barrel is worth a little under $100, and the labor to populate the barrel can go for as high as $200. (On a virgin US barrel, you have to press everything in as well as drill all the pin holes in the barrel.)

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Where can I get the rest of it...and or whats missing?

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NoDak Spud has great receivers. Great people.

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299 right now http://whatacountry.com/amd-65-parts-kit.aspx

Not that I think that's a deal

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That doesn't include the receiver.

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Yeah, WhatACountry is actually where I was getting the old price too :). Great company.. their prices stayed low for awhile - and they still do have some of the lowest - but I think the lack of stock finally caught up with them.. I watched them sell out of products that had literally never sold out before (AK Barrels for one)

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No barrel.. Kind of important :). NoDak makes the best AK receivers though.

These were $179 w/o receiver about a month ago for anybody wondering.

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Apparently the barrels for these are not easy to find either.

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Not really. I had found one earlier before I posted this deal. here is one. Just looked it up on the fly.

http://www.dsarms.com/AK47-16-Barrel--nitrided-New-US-production---AK001...

There are others also that I have found but I am looking for AR stuff right now.

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Thank you Bush43, you worthless progressive POS.

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That barrel isnt made for the amd65, it could work but you would have to take it to probably a machine shop. I suppose some gunsmiths could modify it to work. You cant just slap any barrel is from what I understand.

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