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This conversion includes the complete upper and two 28 round magazines. It is compatible with any Mil-Spec AR lower!
Caliber: .22 LR - Capacity: 28rd - Barrel: 16 - Don't let the ever increasing cost of ammunition prevent you from enjoying your favorite AR-15 / M-16. Chiappa Firearms .22 conversion allows you the opportunity to shoot inexpensive 22 rimfire ammunition for training or just for fun! The M4-22 Rimfire Conversion contains all the parts necessary to change your AR-15 / M-16 from it's existing caliber to the inexpensive .22LR rimfire cartridge.The conversion takes less than a minute and is achieved with no permanent alterations to your firearm. It can be quickly returned to it's original caliber. - The M4-22 Conversion allows semi-auto .22LR fire in ANY mil-spec AR firearm platform. This is a complete upper with a barrel designed specifically for .22 LR ammunition don't risk damaging your centerfire 5.56 barrel with lead bullets or settle for poor performance due to a fast twist rate. The design allows for the use of any Atchinson style conversion magazines to be used.
UPC#: 752334195005
SKU#: 500068
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The BCG is terrible, terrible quality. It will fit into a standard upper, though. If you're interested, I can send pics of mine.
These are polymer uppers, the barrel is not threaded, there is no gas tube, and the front sight is fake. Theproblem with the upper is that the threads are weak. Other than that, they're a decent deal if you already have a cheap poly lower. These aren't showpeices, though.
Also, BGS sells them for 150 shipped from time to time, so you may be better off waiting until black Friday.
I have never owned hi point anything, but their pistols and carbines are fine considering price. This upper is a chiappa, and I have experience with three separate units, they all look like junk and perform the same. The fit to any lowers we tried were unacceptable, and none ran well. These use to run twice this price, they are going for such a low price for a reason. this isnt a good value, becasue it doesnt work well/
Does not include shipping, it's extra once you make an offer and add to cart. Cheap enough to be worth a try since I have a spare lower sitting around
These are not Hi-Points! MKS (HP) is simply the U.S. distributor. This said, as many have pointed out, your money maybe better spent on other options. Not bashing Hi-Points (they are decent guns for what they cost - escpically the larger caliber pistols & carbines), Chiappa 22s have a hit and miss reputation.
Honestly, this may be a wiser option:
Spend the extra $150 or less, and get a Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 that will, no doubt, last a few generations. Then you've got a whole separate rifle, if that's what you want. Just food for thought, I guess..
Link: https://gun.deals/product/smith-and-wesson-mp-15-22-16-25rd-mag-threaded-barrel-32999-sh...
I have a CMMG complete upper, not a conversion kit, and it is flawless! Metal parts, sturdy, and a tight fit with my 5.56 lowers. Never a FTF or FTE!
Do not waste your money on cheapo uppers! You get what you pay for. I understand PLASTIC parts on cheapo uppers???? Ouch! If that is the case???
Ruger 10/22 (ol reliable) would be a better option then this upper all day.
I guess that I should consider myself fortunate - I bought an ATI Omni 22, which is just the ATI Omni polymer lower mated to a Chiappa 22 upper & the only issue I have had is how tight the upper mates to other lowers. It eats any ammo I feed it & shoots pretty decent groups.
Hi Points are a mixed bag...
As far as the pistols go, I've seen quite a few sold over the counter at my old gun shop.
Can't say I ever saw one sold to a guy who didn't speak broken English and didn't have his pants hanging below his ass. Definitely a low budget alternative for the kinda guy who be riding dirty on 30's in a clean money green 81' Caprice and been Boss enuff to not caught a case yet, or maybe dey benjamins be stretched thin from coppin' dat kustom Louis Vuitton alligator interior. Dat swagga be xpensif... NahTomBout?
As far as the rifles go, not this upper, but their rifles, I never met a dude that didn't love it for the money. Cheap 9mm round, reliability all day. Hi point gets a bad rap for their pistols and their owners, but the rifles I've seen at the range ran flawless and were pretty darn accurate.
If they weren't so damn ugly I might consider one.
My advice before buying is "Check yo self be fo' ya wreck yo self"
Looking very closely at this picture...it looks EXACTLY like my Chiappa upper I bought a few months ago. I bet these are made in the same factory. FWIW I never fired my Chiappa....bought a New Frontier lower to cobble together a cheap 22 AR15. The NF plastic hammer was to wide to engage the firing pin on the Chiappa. Since it didn't work I decided to sell it as new, unfired. The guy who bought it from me reported problems with ammo jamming every few rounds. Basically getting stuck sideways once pulled off the magazine and scarring the side of each round. Don't know if it was a bad specimin or if all of them are crap. It looked well made. These even have the same 28rd mags as the Chiappa. I would personally avoid unless they have a return policy that's worth a crap. Just buy a Ruger 10/22 and know you're getting every penny's worth in quality. I know of no better 22LR than the Ruger with the exception of maybe a Volquartsen (which is basically a super tuned Ruger).
I had a Chiappa M4-22 and not much other than the barrel was made of steel. Upper was loose on an Anderson lower--probably would not have functioned. I sold entire gun without firing it. I think Hi-Point and Chiappa use the same distributor so I would venture a guess this is maybe a rebranded ChiChi? But I could be wrong... Buy a 10/22 or 597, instead...
***EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID****Perfect comments! There really is no point in an AR upper in 22.LR. you can buy a far better dedicated .22 for less. The Ruger is an excellent gun. I actually have a Remington 597 with a few mods on it and it is a lot of fun to shoot. I think I paid $125 for the gun, $30 for a bipod, and $130 for a scope.......
YUP if you look below i replied before him saying i researched it and found out its actually a chiappa and kinda gave an updated opinion on it.
On the argument regarding whether an ar 22 is pointless i would disagree, they are a good training implement and useful for intimately familiarizing yourself with the ar platform if you cannot afford to shoot a lot of 5.56/223 in your primary ar. Otherwise i agree that you should just buy a 10/22 etc.. if thats not what your intended use is..
This is in fact junk, but you're dead wrong on .22 uppers in general. After seeing two 597 rifles blow up. I'll take a QUALITY .22lr upper any day of the week.
do any of you haters here own a hi point ? I read all the crap about them from the gun snobs but i decided to try for myself. I own two hi points, a jcp 40 handgun and 4095 carbine and they have worked excellent (no complaints) !!. If you do have a problem they have the best service around and a lifetime transferable warranty!!! Not familiar with their uppers but if there anything like their pistols and rifles i say go for it !!!!
I always wonder about the folks who like Hi-Point carbines but hate the pistols? They are the identical actions - carbines are simply pistol actions housed in frame with a 16 inch barrel & the bolt tapped and threaded for the charging handle on the left hand side. I own many hi end guns, carbines and pistols included. I also own the HPs pistols/carbines in 40&45. They are decent firearms and go bang every time I need them to. For the money, (under $500 for a pistol & carbine that can share the same mags) they are one of the best bangs for your buck on the market today, IMHO.
ok i read around and found out this is actually NOT made by hi point !! its made by chiappa and branded hi point so its your call. I havn't heard anything good about chiappa but i don't own one so i won't judge...
By all means buy it. Some people give their opinions based on decades of knowledge and experience. Others have owned the product, or know people who have owned it etc. The only way for anyone to find out is to buy it.....
The last time I said something was junk, a poster purchased an XTAR AR pistol.....it came to him broke, and now the entire first 200 of them are being recalled.....but what do I know?
I give my opinion, and that's all i can do.....and so do others, but ultimately it isn't my pocketbook, it's yours.
I always say "the best way to learn is the hard way".
Good luck with whatever you choose.
Like I mentioned, I did not know the quality. I could not find any reviews on it. Maybe for a reason.
Don't apologize. No need for it. Opinions at this place are like, well you know the answer. Good price on a budget upper. It's a good deal for some. Thanks for posting.
Whoa.. I agree with John on this one.. Stay away from anything High Point
it is a POS, avoid and just buy a conversion bolt and magazine, you will be money ahead.
The Chippa Upper I had was junk could not make it through a mag without at least 5 ftf, fte or something. I spent more time clearing it than shooting. I even went and got every gen Blackdog machine magazine to try stil no luck. Hated Mini Mags, Federal Bulk you name it I tried it. Sold it for $100 after about 400 rounds telling the guy who bought it the issues. No luck for him either. Pure junk. I hear Hi-Point bought the company now so unless they redesigned it I would stay a way and save the money for something else. I have nothing bad to say about Hi-Point as their carbine is the only thing I have ever owned of theirs and it works fine. But if this is a Chippa I can at least speak from the experience I had with mine.
LOL...Yeah, those that have tried these know.....and those who are trying to convince themselves its a good deal will learn the hard way........but its an "excellent training tool"......
Sometimes people just need to learn the hard way. they ask for opinions, and then ignore them.....
johnmoses Just curious where you even fit into this conversation...? You State Some people give their opinions based on decades of knowledge and experience (have you had decades of experience with this particular product and manufacturer?) You also State "Others have owned the product, or know people who have owned it etc. The only way for anyone to find out is to buy it.....YES YOU ARE CORRECT and THAT'S the people we are here to listen too..! And yet You say it's "JUNK!" Unfortunately your opinion HOLDS NO WEIGHT You Never state your experience with the product, Have you purchased one? Own One,Two Five? Borrowed one? shot one? Or even held one? Save your expertise in something you HAVE expertise in...Just Sayin' and I just left my Remington 597 at the Range one Day...FOR A REASON...!
His comment was from like 3 years ago.. JM has been booted from this site many many times and has gone through about 20 different screen names for being an ass.. I am sure he is back somewhere
I bought one of these. The pin holes are super small and need to be opened up to fit on any lower.
The mags fit really sloppy in the mag well and need to be pushed forward at the bottom or the bolt rocks them back and creates a fail to feed. I am using a CMMG mag and that works.
The sight and flash hider are set screwed, no threading on the barrel
It is accurate though, just unreliable
If anyone out there has had a fix for the mag issue post up. Mine are sloppy in an ATI, Spikes and a Seekins
I bought one as well a few months ago, similar price. The mags were a little loose on mine as well, but I think that is mostly a function of most of the .22 conversion mag designs rather than a flaw in Chiappa's upper. I had black dog mags that did the same thing. I think if I still had one I might try to just wrap a layer of electrical tape near the top of the mag, start with just a few layers to see how much of the wobble it takes up.
I did open the front pin hole on mine to make it fit a little smoother, it fit but was insanely tight previously. In some ways I think that could be kind of beneficial for them to do that as the user can tailor the upper to the tolerances of their particular receiver - there are still small slight variations out there.
All in all, I agree, I didn't have any problem with accuracy, but I could not, for the life of me, get this thing to flawlessly run through an entire mag. I shot a few hundred rounds through it with tons of failures, so I quit, and tried to polish the feed ramp a bit. Ran a few more through it without much change, and I got tired of messing with it. I threw it up on gunbroker and made $50 over my purchase price, lol. I backordered a CMMG upper then, but ended up buying a Smith & Wesson 15-22 after reading so much good stuff about them, and the fact that I got one (and entire gun) for pretty much the same price, maybe slightly less, than a CMMG upper was. The thing works flawlessly, I've run about 500 rounds through it so far and it hasn't had a single failure yet. I am amazed at how well it has worked. I even dropped some slightly damaged rounds that the Chiappa had mangled into the S&W, and it fed all of them.. craziness. It's not a 'real' AR, but it will take stocks, grips, even can be adapted to new fore ends. The lower actually can take any aftermarket AR trigger group as well.
This is just my shameless plug for the Smith & Wesson 15-22... it's about $150 more, but in my opinion, worth every penny. My only gripe is that it is a little lighter than a true AR, and that mags for it are kind of difficult to find (which is common for a lot of stuff right now, unfortunately).
Is there a way to just get the BCG? How easy would it be to swap upper with a metal one?