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Packaged 80% Lower Receiver

AM-15

Open Trigger

Anodized Black

LIMIT 3 PER CUSTOMER

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Don't buy from these guys. When I purchased it said "in stock" but might take 3-5 days to ship due to volume of orders. That was two weeks ago and it still hasn't shipped. Their customer service told me lies like that they are increasing production (They're just drop shipping Anderson products, they don't control production).

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I don't live in WA or have an 80% lower, but it seems like since these aren't plastic, the new WA laws don't change anything?

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To revise my earlier post a couple weeks ago Washington state passed a bill making it illegal to obtain an 80%

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Where can I reference this?

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If you don’t understand the legality of a 80% lower then you probably never built one. They are not as easy as you think. I’m a CNC mechanic so I can whip one out in about 10 minutes. But I have tried the jig and router deal. They make a giant mess and they never come out like a new one. Unless you have access to a Cnc mill. You can sell them but only after you number and register them. But why sell them period with all the idiots out there. unless you know who your selling it too and if that’s the case they can just say they built it

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Actually, if you're not a complete dumbass, and this isn't your first go around with power tools, it's probably easier than you think. Agreed that it's a huge mess, and you'll never come close to the finish of a proper mill, but fabricating a functional firearm should be within the wheelhouse of anyone that can read the jig manual and assemble an lpk. Most people are well within their rights to do so, and if it's not prohibited, then there is no reason not to.

And yes, you probably shouldn't think of it as a business proposal, since that'd be illegal in most circumstances, and you'd probably have to charge $100+ for it to recoup the minimum wage of going at it with a router. Not to mention the cost of the jig and tooling.

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These are fine for the original purchaser to finish. It’s not alright to convert one to a functioning lower for someone else. You buy it and finish it.

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They are 100% legal in Washington state. And as for the “resale” aspect I have a buddy who has built over 20 80% ar15’s and has yet to be contacted by any government agency

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Please tell me you’re joking and not that dumb... either way, expect a visit from the atf in the near future...

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@dalenc119 Why would he be contacted by any government agency? He's assembling ghost guns and obviously selling them to friends and family. He would only get caught if someone reported him or a friend started blabbing about his nefarious gun mfg. on the internet. If he sells any firearm, new or old, to someone other than an immediate family (depends on State laws), without a background check and an FFL transfer, he's committing a felony for each weapon sold. Just because he hasn't been caught, doesn't make it legal!

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He has kept every weapon he has built. And to the contacted by a government agency. There are a lot of people that think it is illegal to build an 80%.

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Built and sold, or just built? The difference us yuge.

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They are 100% legal in Washington state. And as for the “resale” aspect I have a buddy who has built over 20 80% ar15’s and has yet to be contacted by any government agency

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Your buddy really appreciates your incriminating him online. Your blatant disregard for op-sec is why he should have pointedly excluded you from any knowledge of his activities, and bought you a vintage WWII "Loose Lips Sink Ships" poster to hang someplace conspicuous near your computer... ::-p

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Shipping is 16.95 per 3, making each cost roughly 42$. Not a bad price but I will pass ... may be later

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These cost the same price or more than completed lowers. A few companies will sell and ship completed lowers which are firearms and cost more to ship for the same price or less than these unfinished peices of metal... Unless you live in a ban state, I don't see the point..

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Point is to avoid a confiscation.

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Yeah, to me only makes sense if you were really stocking up prior to a looming gun ban and didn't wan to end up on some possible watch list. My FFL charges $20 and $5 for each additional transfer so no real savings when you have to buy the jig and router and drill press.

"Ghost guns" may be more desirable for private sales in the event of hypothetical gun ban because no serial number to trace back to original purchaser.

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These don't require background tax, Transfer tax, no government entity knows you own this weapon and therefore can't be confiscated should "laws"/regulations change. Hmmm, no point? Also, no one is selling complete lowers for less than $99. Stripped lowers ..... yes, you have seen lower prices; Now add in the background tax and transfer tax and they are the same cost or higher.

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Coupon code 762GP32118 currently working. Brings the shipping from a little high to reasonable, IMO.
From pic, these are not safe/fire engraved FYI

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not working as of 8/22

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Could these 80% lowers be shipped to Wa state?

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Technically you should be fine, but don't plan on selling it finished, unless you're looking to expand the diameter of your sphincter a couple inches too.

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Wrong... As long as you finished the lower without ever having the intent to sell or transfer it, it's perfectly fine to sell depending on your state laws. Similarly, when you buy firearms, it's perfectly legal to resale them via private sale just as long as reselling wasn't your original intent.

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True, but a grain of salt here. One or two? Fine. But if you make 50, intent to sell/distribute can be implied. So use caution.

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It's kind of grey with WA. They have some prohibitions on "untraceable" guns, but the language of the law is so vague I wouldn't fuck with it. They'll probably take that whole "buying it without indenting on selling it" a lot more serious than the atf does.

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According to the ATF you cannot sell any 80% lowers that you have built to complete lowers.

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You can sell if you put serial numbers on them. The same as regular lowers, bring it to FFL dealer and do a transfer as for regular firearm. You can not sell if they are not serialized but once engraved with the number you are free to sell it.

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Where'd you find that? Generically as longs as you're not "engaged in the business" of manufacturing completed 80 lowers you can sell them. How they actually define that is rather vague, but I haven't heard of an individual ever being prosecuted for selling a finished ar or two, only cnc shops that were really pushing the boundary of reasonable.

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According to the ATF you cannot sell any 80% lowers that you have built to complete lowers.

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